Counter Strike Source , Team Fortress 2 , Saxton Hale , Zombie Notable examples of community made mods turned official, but what about client side mods? I was Recently in a heated discussion the other night "while in Borderlands" How mods and add-on  *official or not* hurt the PC as a console and valve should not support the modding community. I think addons like unlimited money and invisible textures are bad in multi-player games, but i feel mods are what make the pc the most felxable and outgoing over other consoles (add-ons, maps , skins , Game-modes) I support Modders and Designers in the PC Community [color=red]**Name has been censored from flamed replys**[/color] [left]> *INSERT NAME*: when i played borderlands it was just fuckin lame {SCG} Xero: i modded this as much as fallout NV {SCG} Xero: zombies 24/7 *INSERT NAME*: so u dont play it rite u cheat *INSERT NAME*: lol *INSERT NAME*: hahahahaha *INSERT NAME*: too bad {SCG} Xero: mods are addons not cheats {SCG} Xero: and your trashtalking like a 12 yr old 360 player *INSERT NAME*: ive seen mods true colors *INSERT NAME*: there cheating dude *INSERT NAME*: u can say there mods all u loike *INSERT NAME*: like *INSERT NAME*: there are mod that makes infinite ammo and unlimited money *INSERT NAME*: its basically cheating {SCG} Xero: im not using those mods *INSERT NAME*: the line is blurred between game mods and cheating *INSERT NAME*: way blurred *INSERT NAME*: and the fact that valve doesnt stop it is insane *INSERT NAME*: or relise its cheating {SCG} Xero: valve supports it *INSERT NAME*: yes which is to bad *INSERT NAME*: ive had complete game sessions ruined by modders aka cheaters *INSERT NAME*: many more *INSERT NAME*: th *INSERT NAME*: a *INSERT NAME*: n *INSERT NAME*: 150 {SCG} Xero: then you are one if i remember all the mods on your JB and HH servers in css *INSERT NAME*: sorry *INSERT NAME*: those were not mods *INSERT NAME*: those were game modes {SCG} Xero: flying around with noclip and giving yourself a gun *INSERT NAME*: yup *INSERT NAME*: i did that *INSERT NAME*: admin is not cheater *INSERT NAME*: cheating *INSERT NAME*: i was just emssin around i didnt hinder the game in any way with them {SCG} Xero: do you really call your self a pc gamer *INSERT NAME*: yes *INSERT NAME*: because i am {SCG} Xero: bull becuase the pc community is made of mods and addons *INSERT NAME*: hah no *INSERT NAME*: thats just not true *INSERT NAME*: thats only like 1/3rd of it {SCG} Xero: yea thats what makes pc the best videogame console *INSERT NAME*: i dont think so *INSERT NAME*: ive seen the damage people can give with mods *INSERT NAME*: its not fun *INSERT NAME*: dead island is a good example of that {SCG} Xero: then you dont think at all, hell css was a mod when it began *INSERT NAME*: css was a game not a mod {SCG} Xero: look it up *INSERT NAME*: not *INSERT NAME*: no *INSERT NAME*: i bought it *INSERT NAME*: it was a cd *INSERT NAME*: not a program created by users *INSERT NAME*: it was made by a company with devs *INSERT NAME*: software not freeware *INSERT NAME*: mods are usermade {SCG} Xero: not always *INSERT NAME*: some arent but i dont even bother with them *INSERT NAME*: cause they arent legit {SCG} Xero: then why do you even use steam anymore? *INSERT NAME*: i just want a peaceful session not being interupted by abusive modders *INSERT NAME*: vanilla is what i beleve they call it *INSERT NAME*: thats true fun *INSERT NAME*: untainted unruined perfect fun *INSERT NAME*: modders come and freindly fire whole teams and can themselves generate loot *INSERT NAME*: cheating basicly {SCG} Xero: you did the same in css *INSERT NAME*: i did it for fun *INSERT NAME*: not to purposefully ruin game sessions {SCG} Xero: well others feel you did so in a turn your a hypocrite *INSERT NAME*: thankfully i dont anymore *INSERT NAME*: thats all in the past {SCG} Xero: then your a judas gamer *INSERT NAME*: wtf is that {SCG} Xero: you turned your back on the fredom of pc gaming *INSERT NAME*: thats not freedom *INSERT NAME*: id rather have a vanilla server than even risk someone with mods who will fuck up the session *INSERT NAME*: what i mean is if u have mods use them privatly for u and u only not public so everyone has to suffer {SCG} Xero: i only play single player with mods *INSERT NAME*: thats good *INSERT NAME*: thats ok *INSERT NAME*: im talking about shared mods *INSERT NAME*: idk if thats what there called *INSERT NAME*: they have unlimited money mods for dead island on steam and steam doesnt consider that cheating *INSERT NAME*: its fucking shameful [/left]