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Discussion: 1/21/2012 - Group Chat Meeting Archive - LARGE AS FUCK posted in Archives

{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Awwighty, shall we get this show on the road?
Fascist Kittens: Indeed
[MGO] Kirinae of Diamonds: nope
TxMaverickxT: fort awesome = fort to hide from this chat
Kitsuna: http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/1655e526a66f029928e67a4face94965/m.gif
{SCG} Kenshin entered chat.
TxMaverickxT: founded by mav
Shinskii: Yeesssss....
Cocaine!: Why hath ttho summoned us?
MechaShark entered chat.
[MGO] Kirinae of Diamonds: giant orgy?
Shinskii: Nay
Aesher: Nope
The chat room has been set to officers-only chat by {SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: That annoying moment when people will come in after I say the first bit and not know what they missed
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Already prepped for it XD
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Welcome to the SCG chatroom, home of the good burger.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Tonight I have a few things to announce / discuss etc, hopefully they won't be like any past discussions, I have a bottle of scotch tucked in my desk just in case
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: :P
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: First thing I wanted to announce since I want to get right into it, is much like the first Monday Night Combat, we will in fact be hosting a server / team thing for it once it gets officially released
Herakilla entered chat.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Not totally sure who I want for admins yet, but we'll make that call when we get there
Herakilla: admins?! :O
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: In addition to this, everyone in chat right now is in a raffle, whoever wins it will be given an early access to the beta that they can use / give away if they have it already
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Also Hera is here :P
Herakilla: :>
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Since he is, I'll go into topic 2
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Explain to people what we've talked about with the Jungle Biome :S
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: regarding minecraft
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: ...
Herakilla: as it stands right now, unless jeb changes shit before he updates, in order to get the jungle biomes to generate we will have to manually edit the world which will screw the current biomes
Herakilla: as if they havent already been screwed but still xD
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: They're already screwed because of the update I found out,
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: I'm sure most of the people have noticed that everyone's lands are a tad wonky
Herakilla: snow covering deserts and swamps for example xD
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: The world seed will change and it fluxates the weather, so we're kind of weary about editing it again to include the jungle, because we may lose our seed entirely and have to pick up a whole new one
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Which will just cause more issues
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Also
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We're considering installing towny
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Which will give users the ability to create / govern towns, charge taxes on citizens, etc like that,
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: But we'd like feedback on that
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Herakilla: and wars
Cocaine!: I wasn't paying attention. Are Rowdy and Hera gettign a devorce? Don't make me choose!! D8
TxMaverickxT: sounds good to me
Herakilla: we would be able to have wars between towns
TxMaverickxT: epescially since I just founded a city
Fascist Kittens: No taxation without representation!
Tenda: I want to pay taxes :D
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: dpmt wamt wars
Exploding Sandvich: yeah war seems iminent
Kinos: wars, I like this
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Wars would only be done via admins
Finn, the Iceball adventurerer: To be honest, I don't really use the SCG MC servers.
xevv: I'm fine with wars
Syrup: War. War never changes.
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: i left three other servers because they adopted Factions and Wars
Herakilla: if you dont want to be in a war you can just not participate
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: ^
Combine_Kegan: Oh, we can all chat now. Hello everyone!
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: It won't affect anyone who  doesn't want to do it
Kinos: just find a way to avoid civilian casualties
DeGei: Hello
xevv: Hello.
Finn, the Iceball adventurerer: Hai
TxMaverickxT: Good, cause I wanna be a peacelful underwater city :P
Syrup: Hai.
Exploding Sandvich: hello doctor nick
MechaShark: Clay Soldier Arenas.
5 Fps Johnny. Has. Sound.: I miss playing on the scg minecraft. :<
DeGei: what game is being discussed?
Cocaine! left chat.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Please don't spam the chat,
MechaShark: Betting Will Ensue.
Combine_Kegan: I like being nice and saying hi to everyone :3
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Unless you have a question / input, it'll push what we write aside :v
Cocaine! entered chat.
TxMaverickxT: will we have PvP in wars and arena then?
Cocaine!: Dumb keys.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Currently Minecraft
Kitsuna: I don't play minecraft ^^;; Terraria is my block building game
Stray -- Cranky, Toothless Chow: Don't play minecraft so: Derp
Fascist Kittens: Any positive changes coming to the TF2 servers?
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{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Please don't post anything non related to the topic :S It'll push aside what we have to say and just get it ignored,
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Wars will not effect anyone, and it can only be done by admins, we'd only do it amongst our towns probably as a sort of fun gesture from time to time
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We're not trying to push the server to an rpg style, just offer a mix of both lands to the entire crown
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: crowd*
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: People who are here just to build things will see the advantage in having prosperus towns to sell their un-needed supplies to and buy more tools and etc
Herakilla: yeah exactly we dont want to force people to play a certain way.  it is a sand box game afterall
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We'll be experimenting with an old style permissions tool that will hopefully fix the marketing system
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Precisely,
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: It works out great for everyone involved on all parts
Herakilla: but if two towns decide they wanna war against eachother, admins might even offer up some kind of spoils to go to the winners etc, then the towns can arrange a good time period and an admin can make it happen
Herakilla: so if you get together with friends to make a town, just make sure you all agree whether or not you want to have a war sometime xD
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: On the topic of war, as mentioned, wars only work between the two governing parties, it won't have a negative affect on any surrounding land masses
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: With that, there would also be a capital city, which would be governed by Herakilla, with me as an assistant
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: In said city, and this is regardless of Towny, we have been building an arena
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Where we intend to host different style pvp matches, including spleef
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: The building is being made with accomidating hotel space for those outside the city,
Herakilla: eventually wed like to have weekly pvp and pve stuff where everyone can watch and bet on results and etc!
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Finances will be kept logged on the SCG website, and will allow you to bet on matches / etc from the site itself,
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: I think that's all I have to say on the topic of Minecraft, anything else Hera?
Herakilla: mmm not that i can think of o.o
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Sweet
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy sits on Hera's shoulder, flips through his notebook
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: I'll open for any questions regarding minecraft before we move on
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Kinos: Question; with all these changes, is there a server reset of some kind on the horizon, or are we trying to avoid that at all costs?
TxMaverickxT: Will I be able to set up my own PvP arena?
5 Fps Johnny. Has. Sound.: I missed part of what you were saying. D:
5 Fps Johnny. Has. Sound.: Anything past town wars?
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Herakilla: accept the message
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: @Kinos: We are desperately hoping to avoid a server reset
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We've had too many so far, and it tends to discourage players as we keep doing that,
Herakilla: yup xD
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: @Maverick , Technically yes, but it'd have to be set up by an admin
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: @Johnny, everything posted here will be logged for later reading
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: This was sent to me
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: {SCG} Azure Kitsune: If PvP becomes popular enough in the arenas, could there possibly be a championship? like the world series or superbowl?
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: The answer is yes
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: The arena we're working on is built to a scale to support as many players as we possibly can
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We'd love to hold major events here, and given that Jeb posted a ingame youtube recording concept, we're really excited to see what can be done here
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DeGei: I put in a whitelist request earlier this week, about how long should I wait to hear about it?
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Moar questions?
Herakilla: yeah the sound of teams sounds awesome too ;3
Kitsuna: About Minecraft, or SCG in general?
xevv left chat.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Minecraft
Finn, the Iceball adventurerer: Quick question regarding the model replacer on the Rainbow Swirl server, how opposed would you to be using this model for sniper replacement? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcHlsjRz2M4
Kitsuna sits back and waits then
Aesher: On the topic of pvp. Would I be able to create a pmc that operates between town?
TxMaverickxT: I like that thanks for the answer :D I plan on a different style of arena then what you guys are putting up for more of 1v1 or 2v2 PvP
Aesher: Or create a courier company to acquire and transport goods?
Kinos: Leave it to Aesh
xevv entered chat.
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: Would i be able to maintain a shop at the arena?
Discord: I like that sniper model, theres one server i was on they were running both that one and the Celestia one
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Hold on, about to lock it
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{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: @Finn : Yes, why not? XD
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: @Aesher Both of thise ideas would be glorious, I started a small cart based highway nearby so yeah, that'd be neat to have thrown around
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: @Azure : Yes, that's actually being encouraged because of how the main lobby is, it has plenty of room for kiosks and such
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DeGei: I put in a whitelist request earlier this week, about how long should I wait to hear about it?
Herakilla: whats your mc name?
DeGei: degeidragon
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: Back to wars, would it affect railway oriented towns like mine? Like sabotaging the line?
Herakilla: the way wars work on towny
Herakilla: is you attack the town itself, if members of your town are within its boundries
Herakilla: it slowly starts to lose health
Aesher: Azure has a point. Say we get contracted to sabotage a mine or some such. Would those actions be sanctioned in minecraft or considered griefing?
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: They'd be considered griefing
Herakilla: so the goal is to keep your enemies out of your town and at the same time be inside their town
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: OH so like FW in TF2? where it gives fort health percentages?
Herakilla: yeah there would be no point to sabatoge a mine
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Anything outside town lines would still be considered griefing, to which we can do something about it
Herakilla: yes except destroying stuff doesnt really do much from what i remember
Canyew: I got an idea, i posted it to rowdy in private but I rather put it in to you also hera. on the PvP idea I always had an idea for a server game mode where 2 sides have X ammount of people that wanna fight each other, they are giving a woll colored block "Flag" that they have to build a foot to defend it fro mthe enemy team and given a day. then when both sides are ready they have to fight to brign that flag to their fort, basicly CTF but you can use things like TnT cannons or tnt carts to try and blow up the forts and make your way in
Shinskii: So it's more like capping the town?
Herakilla: its more important that you are physically inside the town barriers
Herakilla: yes
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Yeah Shinskii
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Also Degei, you should be all set
Aesher: Just asking, because I want to know the boundaries of what a pmc could do.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: I re-added the name in just in case
DeGei: What about Capture the Flag with records, also thank you.
Shinskii: Instead of actually demolishing it?
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: ^
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: so rigging a railway to explode near an enemy town is bad yes?
Kinos: well, there goes my TNT empire
TxMaverickxT left chat.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: yes
Canyew: I say build miltary forts outside the towns
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: ok :3
Canyew: That you can use for PvP
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{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Sorry, Just to clarify
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: I think to help make the concept easier, I'd rather not have wars be an excuse to blow up towns, probably the goal would be to attack the mayor of the town, or kill the town's overall health by invading it
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: You could assemble walls to block people in and things like that,
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: PVP killing anyone attempting to break in
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Herakilla: towny makes it so every town will have plots of land that are i think 16x16 and players that are a part of the town can be assigned them.  being inside these plots will damage the towns health
Canyew: Ahhh i see
Herakilla: the only reason you NEED to destroy anything would be to gain entrance to the town itself
Canyew: So have basicly an engineer that are people that try to dig tunnels or into towns
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Pretty much
Exploding Sandvich: one quick queston about war will there be any form of guns or artilery that will be added onto the server
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Negative
Herakilla: nope
Finn, the Iceball adventurerer: Balkon's canons not even?
Herakilla: you not happy enough with enchanted bows?! D:<
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We're not going to attempt any large scale mods that go outside bukkit, anything destructive and etc
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: build ur own TNT cannon if u want artillery :D
Aesher: So then it would seem that the pmc is a wash, but my courrier service is a go.
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: It's not so much that we want to restrict the player choices, just want to keep things easy for us to fix should someone go too far
Herakilla: would be easier just to set off the tnt yourself at the base of their wall or something xD
Kinos: I can build TNT cannons out of ston and water
Hero of None entered chat.
Kinos: Hera, ranged attacks, so you can hit them without them killing you before you get there
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: We did look into Industrial craft, but it's too tasking for the server to have it running without problems
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Any more on minecraft or should we proceed?
Cocaine!: Have you looked into the technic pack?
{SCG} Azure Kitsune: proceed :>
Finn, the Iceball adventurerer: Redpower?
Canyew: Mmmph to bad IC2 has a lot of fun stuff but yeah
Canyew: IC2 tends to be a bit heavy on the programming side
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{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Last note on that, any mod ideas you'd like us to investigate, post on the forums, and if there is anything else, you're more than welcome to email us or steam us or whatever :P
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: [email protected]
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: I'll make hera one also XD
Herakilla: yush pester me allllllllll you want
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: He loves it when you call him at 3 am to tell him things
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Lol
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: Anyway, moving on
Herakilla: im normally patient >.> if not ill just eat you macro style
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: :c
Herakilla: im deaf anyway it wouldnt wake me up!
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: x3
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: On the topic of Tf2
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy puts up riot shielf
{SCG} Razzlin Dazzlin Rowdy: sheild*


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